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‘Born Again’ Miers or Cronies in Christ

by Pamela Leavey

I’m a strong believer in the Separation of Church and State. One’s religious and spiritual views are in all circumstances to be kept separate from the governing bodies of our country. The erosion of the Separation of Church and State is at an all time high under the Bush administration. The WaPo now reports that Harriet Miers, like George W. Bush is a ‘Born Again’ Christian. Does that make them Cronies in Christ? It would appear so.

When Bush said he wanted a Supreme Court Justice who shares his views, he wasn’t kidding. “I know her heart,” Bush told a Rose Garden news conference. “Her philosophy won’t change.”

This new revelation from the WaPo on Miers’ religious views should be of great reassurance to the religious right who have been up in arms with worries about some of her views including on the subject of gay rights and abortion.

One evening in the 1980s, several years after Harriet Miers dedicated her life to Jesus Christ, she attended a lecture at her Dallas evangelical church with Nathan Hecht, a colleague at her law firm and her on-again, off-again boyfriend. The speaker was Paul Brand, a surgeon and the author of “Fearfully and Wonderfully Made,” a best-selling exploration of God and the human body.

When the lecture was over, Miers said words Hecht had never heard from her before. “I’m convinced that life begins at conception,” Hecht recalled her saying. According to Hecht, now a Texas Supreme Court justice, Miers has believed ever since that abortion is “taking a life.”

This revelation should also raise a serious red flag for those who believe that our Constitution guarantees the Separation of Church and State. Will Harriet Miers put the Constitution before her God? Or will Harriet Miers do Bush’s bidding for his vision of God and country?

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino declined to comment on Hecht’s recollection yesterday but said President Bush did not ask Miers her personal views on abortion or any other issue that may come before the court. “A nominee who shares the president’s approach of judicial restraint would not allow personal views to affect his or her rulings based on the law,” Perino said.

As the WaPo headline says, “Strong Grounding in the Church Could Be a Clue to Miers’s Priorities.”

Anyone who thinks that she’s not set up to do Bush’s bidding for his vision of God and country is delusional. There’s been a lot talk in the blogosphere about Dobson so quickly embracing Miers, perhaps this could be one of the reasons why.

14 Responses to “‘Born Again’ Miers or Cronies in Christ”

  1. ‘A nominee who shares the president’s approach of judicial restraint would not allow personal views to affect his or her rulings based on the law,” Perino said.’

    Give me a break Perino. I know the droolers(and MSM) lap up that idiotic drivel but put a sock in it. Then go jump off a cliff. A high one. Thanks

    Run Sponge Bob! RUN!!!

  2. Dave from Princeton

    I think we all need to run with Sponge Bob. Bush’s views are not the views of America.

  3. “Cronies in Christ”

    LOL! Pamela, I love it. Truer words were never spoken.

    I’m just glad Christ already died for their sins. If he was alive and saw what type of slime refer to themselves as Christians it would kill him. 🙁

  4. I think Ron is probably right about the crony thing. Can’t remember which article on her someone remembered her telling them that W was the most brilliant person she had ever met. I have always believed W is no dimwit. But to consider him that brilliant is really delusional. Too bad the Senate can’t ask for a Psychiatric Eval….

    Frist would probably try to do it:)

  5. Just went back to check some posts from earlier and ran across Theo and The Oracle.

    I guess it was one of those light bulb experiences. Thinking back to last year and how so many kept saying it was the vote of a lifetime, that we couldn’t keep going like Hitler did with Germany.

    I was remembering how Hitler had his little scheme tied up with Christianity and then I had this image of the Berlin Wall coming down. That Germany had rebuilt and come together and turned away from the mess,

    We can do it. We have to keep resisting and fighting . And we wll overcome…

  6. Dave from Princeton

    As soon as I read that in the WaPo it was like being struck by lightening! LOL!

    You know they don’t care what they do to the planet or our country, they think the end is coming.

    And, of course Bush talks to God and God tells him what to do! I always thought claims like that were considered to be blasphemous.

  7. Ginny

    I forgot to read the post from the Oracle… time for bed now… tomorrow!

  8. Oh yeah,

    On the Democrats have no religion BS. We don’t bring our moral values into politics,

    The GOP leaves their moral values in the ballot box. Then they go to business as usual – whether its politics or business,

    The economy IS a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment – and business without morals is one of Gandhi’s seven sins.

  9. Ginny in CO,

    Yep and Yep.


    Well for me I thought Bush talking to God was obviously ridiculous either way.

    Since I’m an atheist I always felt he was just talking to the evil voices in his head. If I’m wrong about thier not being a God, then I knew it meant he was talking to Satan. Either way, I know it sure isn’t God he “talks” with.

    If I was a Christian I would be so offending by Bush and all of the religious right. Everything they say and preach is a blasphemous. I’m surprised and frankly angry, that the real Christians in this country, and esp their Ministers, Priests etc, haven’t risen up in outrage over these Pharisees. They are the total opposite of Christ and all his teachings. As I’ve said before, I’m an atheist and I’m still a much better Christian than the any of the religious right.

    Oops… Please don’t punish the whole class again teacher. I’m going to sit in the corner and then I’ll go down to the principle’s office again 🙁

  10. Dave, I’m sitting in the back with you throwing spit balls… it’s just that I’m short, and the nuns can’t see me. LOLOL

    “Cronies in Christ,” Pam, that’s a good one.

  11. I’m a little disgusted by the way some of my fellow Democrats are taking this as an occasion to Christian-bash again. I am particularly irritated by Ginny in CO’s nonsensical “I was remembering how Hitler had his little scheme tied up with Christianity”! Hitler was an apostate, and persecuted many believing Christians, killing more than a few of us.

    The Bushies are idiots, many of them cloaked in a patina of “Christianity” that ignores the words of the Christ. So what? My neighbor, Milwaukee ex-Mayor Frank Zeidler, became a Socialist because he is a Christian. Many of us are active in the Democratic Party because of our Christian faith.

    I would ask that this forum not become a haven for bigotry against Christians. Yes, I am a “born-again” Christian. I’m also a member of People For the American Way, Democracy for America, Americans United, the ACLU, etc.; if you have a problem with that, you need to examine your own prejudices and stereotypes.

  12. Michael J. “Orange Mike” Lowrey Says: October 5th, 2005 at 9:27 am


    I totally get that many democrats are Christian and also many are “born again” Christian. That is not the issue to me. The issue to me is the that Bush has put up a crony for nomination to the Supreme Court who not only mirrors his political views but obviously his religious views as well.

    Many things hang in the balance with this nomination. Religion MUST stay out of politics. If Bush were Catholic and Miers were as well, I would have written the same thing.

    I have no bigotry towards religion. I have studied a wide variety of religions and and spirituality. My concern is the bigotry of the evangelicalists towards people of other faiths.

    We’ve seen that bigotry over and over again in the Bush administration. If they had not forced their views down the throats of Americans we would not be having this conversation.

  13. Michael, since I’m here right now, I’ll attempt to address your post. And I take your point sincerely.

    From what I know of the posters here, I wouldn’t assume they are disparaging Christians, but disparaging the Bush Cabal’s USE of Christianity to further their own ends. Ends, that to many people of spirit, debase the lessons and life of Christ, as well as others.

    What’s been done in the name of Christianity, is, to my heart, sickening, perverted and evil. (And I just ain’t the kind of person who tosses out the word ‘evil’ lightly.)

  14. Michael J. “Orange Mike” Lowrey,

    Oh boy, I ususally try to write so as not to be misunderstood. That was almost 1 am my time (I work swing shift so not terribly late) and I should have checked it a little harder.

    I was trying to say that Hitler used Christianity as a cover for something that was obviously and totally contrary to Christ’s teaching – to the point of actually killing Christians who saw through and tried to expose him.

    Please, Mike, accept my apology for giving you that impression and the anger. I am one of the most vocal supportors of the true Evangelical movement – because I am personally a Unitarian-Universalist. There are, unfortunately, many people who are still angry, bewildered and not being very open minded in their comments about Christians and evangelicals, which I suspect is partly why mine came across the same way.

    I have been fighting the frustration and horror of watching this truly beautiful and wonderful religion being so distorted. I recently read two books that I have repeatedly recommended and will continue to because I owe the authors a great debt for restoring my admiration and faith in this movement to work with the rest of us to change our government. They are :

    Tony Campolo “Speaking My Mind” and David Dark “The Gospel According to America” Both are Evangelicals who speak for people like you and are trying to get the mic back from the religious leaders and followers who seem to have gotten the whole message upside down and backwards. Dark is flat out brilliant. Campola has one of those minds that generates the right questions and comes up with answers that make us all think and come to clearer understanding,

    The essence of the arguments that I have seen all the regulars post (even Dave from P’s rants) is not that we don’t want or respect Christians in the party. We want anyone in the party who is willing to respect other people’s religions as we respect theirs. The political position is that we leave each other free to practice our own religions in our own lives. Not passing laws or regulations that restrict that practice or interfere with other rights, based on the religious beliefs of one group – even if they are a majority.

    My actual intention was to relay the sense of “it’s not as hopeless as all of us fear at times”..We have a recent historical example of someone horribly abusing power under the cover of religion – specifically Christianity- and the country came out of it and is not ‘lost’. America can do it too.

    If there is any thing that you disagree with or don’t understand, please let us know so we don’t continue to send a message that can be misunderstood. Me especially.


    Ginny in CO