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Kerry Responds to Desperate Bush Smears – Media and Blogosphere in a Frenzy

by Pamela Leavey

The media and the blogosphere are in the midst of a frenzy like we haven’t seen since ’04 over the trading of barbs by Kerry and Bush today. The firestorm extraordinaire is as David Stout from N.Y. Times describes, “another example of the heated rhetoric surrounding the war issue as the Congressional elections approach.” There was no holding Kerry back this morning when the hits started coming from the right wing nut-jobs, the war of words was launched between the left and right all over the media, the blogosphere and the air waves.

Stout notes in the NY Times “Part of Mr. Kerry’s outrage may arise from memories of 2004, when a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth raised allegations, never substantiated,” and he added, “This time, Mr. Kerry did not wait.” Damn straight he didn’t wait. Kerry released a statement soon after the first hits started and then moved on to an all out, no holds barred press conference, that was stunning to watch (video and transcript here). Poetic justice at it’s best — Kerry ripped into the right wing parrots and pundits and tore them all a new one.

In his direct response to Bush’s desperate smears, Kerry said:

“I make apologies to no one about my criticism of the President and his broken policy that kills and maims our heroes in Iraq every single day. This pathetic attempt to distort a botched joke about President Bush is a shameful effort to distract from a botched war.

As a combat veteran, I know the dedication, integrity, and commitment of American troops. I’ve lived it. Had George Bush and Dick Cheney been in combat one minute of their comfortable lives they would never have sent American troops to war without body armor or without a plan to win the peace and they wouldn’t be exploiting our troops today.

President Bush owes an apology to our troops and to their families for his disaster in Iraq. George Bush didn’t do his homework when he ran from sound intelligence about Iraq. Dick Cheney didn’t learn from the lessons of the Gulf War when he forgot his own advice not to get bogged down in Iraq. George Bush didn’t do his homework when he ignored General Shinseki’s advice to go to war with enough troops to maintain order. This entire administration didn’t learn anything about telling the truth; otherwise they would have leveled with the American people that we are stuck in a civil war in Iraq today.”

Here’s a view of the discussion in the blogosphere, on the air waves and in the news:

  • Ed Schultz fired back at the right wing today on his show today.
  • Markos on Daily Kos pulled out all the stops in letting Kerry know he had his back today Kudos to Markos.
  • On the Sideshow, Avedon noted: John Kerry puts his foot down, at last.
  • Wing-nut Noel Sheppard on NewsBusters.org complained: CNN Shills for Sen. Kerry. Wrong Noel.
  • And TIME shilled for Bush here and here.
  • Reuters says: Kerry draws Republican fire
  • On FireDogLake, Jane says, Yes, Let’s Do Mention the War.
  • Jennifer Loven reports on AP News: White House, Kerry Exchange Accusations
  • On the HuffPo, Bob Cesca says: Remember “Bring ‘Em On,” Mr. President?
  • Shakespeare’s Sister says: Kerry Strikes Back
  • On ToughEnough, Diane says, Take two deep breaths, and call me in the morning.
  • Gun Toting Liberal says, Both barrels blazing: Senator John Kerry blasts President Bush, Tony Snow, Senator McCain, Rush Limbaugh; makes no apologies for remarks.
  • SteveAudio follows up with, Johnny get angry, Johnny get mad Pt. 2
  • Keep the heat on JK — Don’t stop firing back at until after election day. It’s time for a real debate on Iraq — Do Not Back Down. We’ve got your back.

    UPDATE: Hotline On Call notes Kerry spokesman David Wade’s response to McCain call for Kerry to apologize…

    Kerry aide David Wade: “When will John McCain ask his new Republican best friends George Bush and Dick Cheney to apologize for misleading America into war and giving us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it? John McCain’s neoconservative pals are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.”

    UPDATE 2: Note to readers — Fire Back in support of John Kerry…

  • To this editorialwith an LTTE .
  • Ask Reuters what their purpose is in publishing this recycled ’04 election garbage.
  • Let Lou Dobbs know you support John Kerry.
  • UPDATE 3 – RELATED POSTS:

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  • Video & Transcript- Kerry: “I Apologize to No One for My Criticism of the President”
  • Max Cleland on John Kerry’s Response to GOP Attacks
  • General Claudia Kennedy Defends Veteran John Kerry Against GOP Attacks
  • Olbermann Discusses John Kerry’s Remarks and the Republican’s Distortion (Video)
  • A Loss of a Loved One and John Kerry
  • Note to Little Green Footballs: You’re Wrong About Enlistment Requirements
  • John Kerry Talks to Imus
  • Statement of Senator John Kerry
  • Olbermann: Bush Owes Troops an Apology, not Kerry
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  • 22 Responses to “Kerry Responds to Desperate Bush Smears – Media and Blogosphere in a Frenzy”

    1. The GOP wanted to debate Iraq well they got what they asked for.

      John McCain is a mealy mouth, opportunist who needs to stand up for the troops or sit the hell down. He’s the worst out of the bunch make no mistake because if you think Bush exploits the troops McCain will out do him by a mile.

      Only uncle max standing up for Kerry. Not surprised. Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Hillary all waiting to see which way the wind blows before they give their 2 cents.

      Way to Kerry. Don’t back down or apologize for telling the truth. Join the military today be in Iraq tomorrow.

      Loved his smack to limbaugh and tony snow :-) That was absolutely priceless.

      At first when I saw the blurb on the cnn website I thought oh god they are going to skewer him and use him to try and defeat dems in 06 and if it worked everybody would blame Kerry.

      Well Thanks to dem daily for giving me the scoop.

      This is a test for the dems. Are they going to let the gop wing nuts skewer them on their commitment to the troops again?
      Are they going to continue to backstab Kerry?

      Or are they going to blast the bushers and rovians to hell.

      Somebody needs to ask McCain when he’s going to ask for accountability from his leadership about the foley incident. He morally righteous and yet you’ve heard not a peep from him about that.

      McCain once again tried to skewer JK but he got his teeth kicked this time.

      The GOP will use this against the dems perhaps but if the dems don’t stand up now then they won’t stand up after the election win or loose.

      Kerry had it right, bush sent the troops to a war without the right tools, equipment to defend themselves and a plan to exit.

      The whitehouse hopes to keep the focus on Kerry instead of their own failed policy.

      I would drop the Katrina foreign policy because their foreign policy is 10 times worse than Katrina could ever be.

      We will have to keep on the msm when they mess with Kerry especially now and make sure they keep this about Iraq and not the messenger.

    2. One of these days the Dem leadership is going to figure out that WHOEVER runs in ’08 is going to have to deal with this s**t. They need to start jumping on the MSM NOW.

    3. The President of the United States orders our troops to stand down from their search for a missing serviceman because he was ordered to do so by another nation’s Prime Minister and the nation’s television media discuss Kerry’s poor joke telling as if it were important. What has this nation become?

      What has the Democratic Party become? The AP, via WPRI Providence, is reporting that Iowa Congressional candidate Brucy Braley has cancelled an event which was to be held with Senator Kerry later this week. Apparently Mr Braley believes his cutting and running in the face of the republican slime machine makes potential voters more likely to choose him as the person to stand up for them in the halls of Congress.

    4. Isbister

      Where the F is the Dem Party? They should have Kerry’s back.

    5. pen

      When will the Democrat party offer up a viable alternative to the Republican party’s policy regarding foreign affairs?

      As I recall, almost a year ago the Democrat leadership ‘had a plan’ and would reveal it ‘soon’.

      We are still waiting, but all we hear are complaints about Republican policies.

      How long must the public wait for this ‘plan’?

      My guess is it will be sometime in the next calendar year, because time waits for no man and the presidential election is just around the corner.

      Ginny

      I agree.

      The Democrat leadership should be dealing with the issues now, not later.

      They were supposed to do so last January or so…

      Don’t expect the MSM to carry any more water though.

      They have been waterlogged for the past forty years.

      Subscribers are wising up to their game and are turning to other means of finding out the truth.

      Unfortunately for Democrats, truth is not their forte.

      Every four years the voters have their say and they say that they will not vote for liars, cheaters or thieves.

      Republicans are not complaining, they know truth is on their side and until Democrats understand the importance of humility, they will continue to lose ground.

      Don’t hold your breath though, it may be a while before they get the picture.

      An attitude change would help too.

      Like admitting that they are only human and humans make bad decisions and must face the consequences of their actions.

      Consequences like resigning from office when caught cheating, stealing or breaking the law.

      I also must remind you of the inept Carter administration and the morally corrupt Clinton administration, especially concerning foreign relations, like Carter’s dealings with Iran (the beginnings of terrorism) and Clinton’s mistakes with Korea (policy of appeasement leading to nuclear proliferation).

      When will Democrats learn? Developing…

    6. Oledawg

      The Dems do have a plan and it’s available on their websites – I doubt your internets take you there however.

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    8. A lot of people have long forgotten what leader is and what leadership needs to do. Let’s hope the leader himself did not forget. The way Republicans go after John Kerry gives him an opportunity to step up the attacks big time, if he can stay focus. He is the best person in the party to deliver strong, solid case for the democrats. What is more important these days than to let people know what democrats can do, and what their priorities are, in the next 6 days? The distraction is just chickenshit.

    9. I am on active duty, and have served TWICE in Iraq, both in combat as an armored cavalry officer AND as a physician last year. I will put my SAT scores up against the scumbag who made up band aid injuries in order to get out of Vietnam in less than 4 months, and then came back to make vile and totally false accusations about US troops in testimony to Congress.

      John Kerry is a traitor, and a stupid and arrogant one at that. The derision of the left towards those of us in the military is obvious, from the despicable comments of Kerry and his current propagandists to the evil attempt by democratic party lawyers back in Florida in 2000 to have military absentee ballots thrown out.

      Intellectual dishonesty, as manifested by those purporting to defend Kerry’s twisting explanations, is no sign of integrity, nor of intelligence. It is nothing more than the gross display of anti-American self-loathing of the pseudo-intellectual elitists, and the greedy lust for power of the leftist ideological bosses.

      The only apology I, as a military officer, will accept from Kerry is his immediate resignation from Congress. I know due to his delusions of grandeur that will never happen, so I will have to console myself with the fact that everytime he opens his mouth he demonstrates the inherent anti-Americanism of the democratic party, and increases the number of Republican party votes.

      The only question in my mind, is how long my post will stay on your website – if you even have the intellectual honesty to post it in the first place.

    10. Babydoc,

      I sincerely appreciate your service to our country.

      You are the essence of the American spirit with your dedication to duty and the courage to face adversity against all odds.

      I was dismayed when I observed our first troops at a fuel stopover on Wake Island in 1960, on their way to Vietnam to serve under orders by then-President Kennedy. I was there TDY from Yokota AFB in Japan to support our KB-50 tankers that were inflight refueling F-100s on their way to Vietnam.

      I first learned of the conflict in Vietnam in 1953 from a correspondent reporting on the French Army’s futile efforts to stem the tide from the North.

      I was only thirteen then, and Armed Forces Radio was our only connection with ‘the land of the Big PX’.

      The correspondent painted a bleak picture that unfolded over the years and it really hit home when seven years later, as a young enlisted man, I witnessed our first incursion into that fray.

      We would have never lost that war and were eventually forced to evacuate Vietnam and abandon the loyal South Vietnamese under orders from the Democrat-controlled Congress that dropped all funding for the conflict.

      What followed was a bloodbath in South Vietnam and Cambodia where millions of citizens were murdered, thanks to our Democrat-controlled Congress.

      Thanks to the leftists among us, led by the famous traitoress, Hanoi Jane Fonda, we lost the war without losing a single battle.

      Since then, every time a Democrat has been President, the forces of evil in the world has known they could count on America to cut and run when the Administration was forced to make tough decisions.

      The Administration would respond to adversity with a policy of appeasement at any cost, witnessed by the Iranian (Carter) and North Korean (Clinton)debacles that lead us to the current forces of evil in today’s world.

      But no more. For sixteen years, conservatives on both sides of the aisle have worked together to maintain a more or less balance of power in the world.

      Until September 11, 2001.

      Heaven help us if a Democrat is elected in 2008, for it is certain he/she/it will be a leftist, compliments of the Soros-MoveOn/MSM/Hollywood cabal and gullible Democrat voters.

      My prayers go out to you and all our brave men and women who sacrifice comfort and safety and actually put their lives on the line in order to provide our nation’s security.

      You are real heroes to our nation, not make-believe ‘heros’ that are propped up, touted and feted by our leftist foes.

      Keep up the good work. You ARE making a difference and we are PROUD of you.

    11. What a very pessimistic view of the world and of your fellow Americans who happen to be Democrats. What large war was it that we won in about 1989/90? Oh, yeah, the Cold War (somehow withdrawing from Vietnam didn’t seem to affect that win). I was too young to remember Vietnam, but I don’t know anyone who wishes we were still there fighting that war. And as the Far East opens up, your arguments fall more and more flat. In fact, I read an article the other day about how the Vietnamese were more excited about Bill Gates’ appearance in Vietnam than celebrating Ho Chi Minh’s birthday. That’s what happens when you make good policy choices, and the hard work like Sen. Kerry and Sen. McCain did for the POW/MIAs and the normalization of relations with Vietnam that Clinton did. Yet you can’t get over it, even when members of both parties did things to right the wrongs.

      Senator Kerry has not insulted the troops; I just talked to a wife of someone in the armed forces who didn’t even mention it, because it’s a NON-ISSUE. However, this Bush voter did speak of how she’s leaning toward voting for Webb. THAT’S the story, and come Nov. 7th, we’ll see how much this distraction worked.

    12. Anyone who refers to the Democratic Party as the Democrat Party is easily identified as a right wing hack or incapable of good grammar. Give it up. I’ll know the Republicans have turned a new leaf when they start referring to the opposition with at least one small iota of decency.

    13. Dear Beachmom,

      Well…you certainly put me in my place. You spoke to the “wife of someone in the armed forces who didn’t even mention…” Kerry’s insult – so you use that as evidence to suggest this is a non-issue. I guess my 19 years of service in the army, beginning as an enlisted army infantry private, through my commissioning in the armored cavalry and decoration for valor in combat during Desert Storm, and my subsequent earning of a medical degree with decorated service in Iraq last year caring for wounded military and civilian personnel doesn’t stack up to your vaunted opinion. Pardon me – please – for having the audacity to hold Kerry and the entire Democratic party in utter contempt.

      Let me make it clear. I am a soldier on active duty. I have viewed Kerry’s comment on videotape, and listened to his multiple excuses and backpedalling efforts to avoid having to apologize for his outrageous insult. Kerry CLEARLY insulted us – and even the traitorous Hillary Clinton (who I believe is a member of the Democratic party, isn’t she?) has called the comments inappropriate, though anyone with a measure of sanity knows she is doing so only to preserve her political viability for her 2008 presidential (God forbid) run. Murtha, Landrieu, Ford…how many other members of your party are running screaming from Kerry’s insult to me and my fellow members of the military?

      Call me a hack all you want because I didn’t capitalize the word “democrat” in my previous post, but don’t overlook the irony of you taking offense at a typographical error while willfully ignoring the deliberately condescending attitude of Kerry’s insult against American military personnel.

      You want discourse? Name a single policy decision under the two most recent Democratic administrations of which you feel there was a positive outcome for Americans to be proud. I’d be more than happy to debate whatever issue you want to discuss.

      And I will work hard to ensure I capitalize your party’s name from now on…

    14. I don’t understand how John Kerry’s comments could have even been taken out of context. It seems pretty clearly stated. We all knew that Goerge W. wasn’t sharp enough to catch on to subtlties, but I didn’t realize that went for the rest of the right wing nuts as well. It is pretty clear that they are just reaching, trying desperately to do everything they can to make democrats look like the enemy at this time. Pretty sure they would have needed alot more that a week before the election to accomplish that, given the fact that they have had our troops over in Iraq since March of ’03. If any of you are still blind to the devistation that is taking place over there, visit http://www.webegeek.net and click on the tab labled “RIP Stay the Course”

    15. Kelley Taylor –

      The delicious irony (in the context of a thread on Kerry’s insult to all of us wearing military uniforms)of your first three sentences probably escapes you, however I need to address a couple of points in your entry that display a horrendous lack of historical perspective.

      1) You comment on the fact that US troops have been in Iraq since 2003. That is absolutely true, except for the added fact that US troops have actually been over there since 1989, after Iraq invaded Kuwait. We remained over there precisely because Saddam continued to violate the terms of the Gulf War cease-fire…until we finally removed him in 2003 under the auspices of his failure to comply with multiple UN resolutions.

      2) You speak of the “devistation (sic) that is taking place over there,” and send us to an unbelievably anti-American propaganda website. Guess what…I’ve been to Iraq. I’ve provided medical care to Iraqis as well as Americans. Notwithstanding how I and my fellow soldiers would laugh at the disgusting bias demonstrated by so-called news reporting as we watched CNN distort our situation in Iraq, your website reference shows the overblown Abu Ghraib pictures in a parade of anti-US military photos with absolutely no interest in an honest contextual presentation. There are no pictures showing that the injured kids were casualties of the TERRORIST’S IEDs and attacks. There are no pictures of Saddam’s rape rooms, torture chambers, and the infamous childrens prison. There are no pictures of the vicious murder of the Kurds via Saddam’s use of chemical weapons. There are no references to Saddam paying the families of Palestinian homicide bombers $25,000 per “successful” terrorist attack against Israel. In short – your website reference is nothing more than typical leftist hyperventilating overemotionalism and deceitful propaganda which the left attempts to pass off as actual thought, but that woefully ignores the reality of the situation.

      In closing – I’d like to remind you of a quote from President Abraham Lincoln. He said, “Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged.” Don’t take my word for it – look up the quote yourself.

      I look forward to you explaining to me how Mr. Lincoln was a “right wing nut job”.

    16. Babydoc writes: “I look forward to you explaining to me how Mr. Lincoln was a “right wing nut job”.

      LOL. Only a Republican, grasping at straw men, could try and equate the doofus in the Oval Office with Abraham Lincoln.

      Disregarding that, you are factually incorrect when you wrote “That is absolutely true, except for the added fact that US troops have actually been over there since 1989, after Iraq invaded Kuwait.(sic)”

      We haven’t been in Iraq since 1989. We’ve been in the Gulf Region since August of 1990, when Iraq invaded Kuwait. In fact, our troops in Saudi Arabia all those years is part of what so many muslims ojected to, including the more extremist elements in al Qaeda.

      Further, Saddam Hussein wasn’t a threat to his own people, let alone his neighbors or U.S. security. Your much vaunted “mushroom cloud WMD” proved utter and complete B.S.

      Talk about your “hyperventilating overemotionalism and deceitful propaganda which attempts to pass off as actual thought.” That would be your comments, alright.

    17. Todd,

      Nice attempt at a dodge regarding Lincoln, totally avoiding the actual point in favor of yet another typical liberal example of name-calling. Oooh…such intellectual power you’ve displayed…it makes me quiver.

      I humbly and readily admit my error – it was 1990, not 1989, that Iraq invaded Kuwait. I have no excuse for being one year off, and since the truth matters to me more than my personal ego, I have no trouble admitting this error of one year in my comment. Regardless, I am closer to the truth than the author of the post to which I was referring who was complaining about our military being in Iraq since 2003.

      Have you actually been to Iraq? Or Saudi Arabia? Or Kuwait? How do you personally know “…what so many muslims ojected (sic) to,…”? I have been to all those countries. I have bandaged wounds and provided medical care to muslims and non-muslims. I have sat down to dinner with Iraqi and Saudi army personnel – at their invitation, no less – and enjoyed conversations with them on the topic of the US military presence in Iraq. Just because Howard Dean, John Kerry, and the MSM parrot the Democratic party talking points on what “muslims” believe about the US military doesn’t mean there is any basis in reality of such comments. Are you seriously implying that the vicious act of war that happened on 9/11 was due to the US presence in Kuwait? Oh, by the way…did Kuwait ask us to come and stay there after we removed Saddam from their sovereign nation? Or did we just muscle our way there and stay around like an unwelcome relative?

      You wrote the typical liberal drivel: “Further, Saddam Hussein wasn’t a threat to his own people, let alone his neighbors or U.S. security. Your much vaunted “mushroom cloud WMD” proved utter and complete B.S.” Your delusional interpretation of history explicitly demonstrates why liberals should NEVER be allowed to have control over US foreign policy ever again.

      – Saddam gassed his own people – with WMD, no less -in the Kurdish region when he was in power. The mass graves, torture chambers and the other assorted aspects of Saddam’s dictatorship doesn’t qualify as being a threat to “his own people”?

      – Saddam attacked two separate countries, Iran and Kuwait, during his reign of terror. Against Iran, he again used chemical weapons (those pesky WMD again).

      – Saddam refused to comply with UN arms inspectors in compliance with the terms of the Gulf War cease fire agreement, and we went in as part of the war on terror. You are hypocritical in trying to assign the ‘straw-man’ argument against me with your propagandistic ‘mushroom cloud WMD’ comment. Do you remember all the members of the Democratic party who made statements on the record claiming that Saddam had WMD? Or have you conveniently flushed all those comments down the memory hole?

      I am happy to discuss facts and have reasoned debate, Mr. Mitchell. Of course, based on my experience, I fully expect either continued baseless ad hominem attacks shrieked at ever-increasing volume by leftists who cannot debate actual facts – or deliberate self-delusion. I admit – you corrected my single error regarding the actual year we went into Iraq. I readily accepted the correction in the quest for truth.

      However, I note with obvious non-surprise that the relevant points of my successive missives here have been left utterly unchallenged by you or anyone else thus far responding.

      Be careful, as your Bush Derangement Syndrome is clearly clouding any semblance of reason. I would be happy to debate with you the similarities of President Bush versus President Lincoln, particularly juxtapositioned against the behavior of Bill Clinton during his occupation of the White House. Would you care to discuss how Clinton’s actions in Bosnia where he bombed Christians in support of Muslims won over the muslim world – as manifested in the 1993 attempt to blow up the World Trade Center, the bombing of our two embassies in Africa, the Khobar Towers bombing, and the USS Cole bombing? Perhaps you would care to debate the geopolitical consequences of our withdrawal from Somalia under Clinton when his defense secretary, Les Aspin, refused to send the armor units requested by the military commanders on the ground, resulting in the death of 19 Army Rangers and the despicable sight of their burned bodies being drug through the streets by a muslim warlord’s thugs?

      Or perhaps you wish to discuss how the tax CUTS implemented since President Bush won office have resulted in the highest amount of tax revenue flowing into the US Treasury in our national history? How about the current excellent performance of the stock market? How about the 1.7 million new jobs created?

      I’m happy to go on, Mr. Mitchell, on whatever political topic you wish to debate.

      Oh – and notice I did not result to a single ad hominem attack against you in responding to your entry. It will be interesting to see if you are capable of doing the same.

      Oh – and did you see that Kerry has managed to provide a half-hearted apology to all of us in the military? Yes, he didn’t have the courage to do it live on video – so he had it posted on his website.

      What courage! We are so lucky this individual did not become our Commander-in-Chief. 8 years of Clinton was bad enough.

    18. beachmom,

      Please accept my apology if the term ‘Democrat Party’ offends thee.

      Wikipedia is a great tool, I learned a lot concerning the phrase and history of its usage.

      Besides, that wet noodle really stung.

      I promise in the future I will use the term ‘Democrat’ when I mean a single ‘Democrat’ or a group of ‘Democrats’ or a ‘party of Democrats’ instead of ‘Democrat Party’.

      I stand corrected.

      Send me your email address and I will run future posts by you for editorial comment before posting.

      While we are on the subject of decency**, I will also gladly forward to you the voluminous, hideously obscene names that conservatives are called by ‘Democrats’ on a daily basis, often religously parroted by the MSM word for word while they hide behind the First Amendment.

      You will need to keep them out of sight of small children though, and unless you are a left wing hack, prepare to have YOUR sensibilities offended.

      Be forewarned, because you seem to have a very delicate sense of propriety or even morality.

      This stuff would make a pervert blush.

      Now, does that qualify as ‘at least one small iota* of decency**’?

      *Definition of iota: i-o-ta – A very small amount: bit

      **Definition of decency: Conformity to recognized standards of propriety or morality.

      Sheesh. Picky, picky.

      Insofar as your preceding post, your impression that Democrats were somehow due credit for ending the Cold War (the ‘we’ in ‘we won’) assumes that Democrats did not continuously obstruct President Reagan as only Democrats can obstruct in a Democrat-controlled Congress.

      The war was won by Reagan’s bi-partisan efforts between Republicans and conservative Democrats (remember them? They are almost extinct nowadays) in Congress by promoting the Strategic Arms Initiative (liberals called it ‘Star Wars’). SDI scared the poop out of the USSR and the USSR ran out of money trying to keep up with what they perceived as an insurmountable threat to their ideology.

      Concerning Vietnam, we did not ‘withdraw’ (newspeak for ‘cut and run’) but a Democrat-majority in Congress withdrew ALL funds so the military had no choice. Democrats can be brutal most of the time–especially when the majority consists of leftist liberals.

      Actually, leftist liberals, including the MSM, still relish the debacle of Vietnam as their finest hour and are mad as hell because they have lost that power since 1994.

      Lets see, you should remember that if you were probably in your twenties then and still under the influence of leftist liberal elitist professors where you received your indoctrination and socialist ideology.

      It is childish and probably shows some of your vindictive streak to suggest that someone here in America, except possibly some Vietnamese refugees with surviving relatives there, wishes we were still there fighting that war.

      The murdering of millions has been over for quite a while, and even Hanoi Jane Fonda has exibited some sense of remorse for her treachery, but that is now water over the bridge.

      For that matter, liberals here have been murdering millions for years with impunity and funding the infanticide with our tax dollars.

      I guess that statement will raise your hackles, but truth is truth and no amount of rationalization or intellectual dishonesty will make it go away.

      So the Far East is ‘opening up’? How so?

      I do not trust communist propaganda any more than I trust the MSM or, for that matter, the international media, so an ‘article’ purporting this or that has no effect on me until things begin to shake out.

      Kerry and Clinton are opportunists who should never be trusted, under any circumstances.

      McCain has somehow evaded adverse publicity even though he was one of the ‘Keating Seven’ cabal and will come under intense scrutiny if he is able to win over conservative Republicans and win the 2008 Republican Primary.

      Remember, RINOs (Republican in Name Only) are liberals, who should never be trusted under any circumstances.

      I suspect Clinton and his ilk have an F.B.I file to handle him if and when the time comes to destroy him politically.

      What ‘wrongs’ were ‘righted’ by those jokers?

      The world is inherently evil, and if you do not believe it, you will soon learn the hard way.

      Kerry did insult the troops and has done so to further promote his agenda.

      We can trust him to continue to do so, that is his nature.

      I suspect the wife of someone in the armed forces who didn’t even mention ‘it’ may very well consider ‘it’ a non-issue. I certainly do not know nor care what or who she may vote for.

      We will certainly will find out soon.

      Regardless of this ‘fact’, a non-issue it is not, neither is it a ‘distraction’.

      I can hardly wait.

      Time will tell.

    19. oledawg

      You’re a funny guy. Here’s the deal, should we call the GOP the Republic Party?

    20. Babydoc writes: “I’m happy to go on, Mr. Mitchell, on whatever political topic you wish to debate. Oh – and notice I did not result to a single ad hominem attack against you in responding to your entry. It will be interesting to see if you are capable of doing the same.”

      [snicker] In the words of your vaunted, 21st century Abe Lincoln, “Bring it on”.

      “Have you actually been to Iraq? Or Saudi Arabia? Or Kuwait?”

      More straw men. Have you ever been to Iowa? Or Maine? Or Greenland?

      “- Saddam gassed his own people – with WMD, no less -in the Kurdish region when he was in power. The mass graves, torture chambers and the other assorted aspects of Saddam’s dictatorship doesn’t qualify as being a threat to “his own people”?”

      Saddam “gassed his own people” with WMD supplied by Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush during the Iran/Iraq war in the 1980’s. Further, he “gassed his own people” after Bush I urged Iraqis to “rise up and overthrow the tyrant” and then left them hanging in early ’91. Literally.

      “- Saddam attacked two separate countries, Iran and Kuwait, during his reign of terror. Against Iran, he again used chemical weapons (those pesky WMD again).”

      Those “pesky WMD” supplied by Republican administrations, used by him with Don Rumsfeld’s blessing, and without which his country had been since 1991.

      “- Saddam refused to comply with UN arms inspectors in compliance with the terms of the Gulf War cease fire agreement, and we went in as part of the war on terror. You are hypocritical in trying to assign the ’straw-man’ argument against me with your propagandistic ‘mushroom cloud WMD’ comment. Do you remember all the members of the Democratic party who made statements on the record claiming that Saddam had WMD? Or have you conveniently flushed all those comments down the memory hole?”

      Wrong again. Weapons inspectors were in Iraq in the run-up to the war, confirming Hussein had no vestiges left of the WMD we had given him 20 years prior (ancient history, no doubt, to the conservative mind). Bush cooked the intel, fed it to the Dems (who, without reason to suspect cooked intel, cited said “facts” as truth), and force-fed it to the country. Your entire war in Iraq is and was based on one lie after another.

      Talk about your “hypocrisy”. Any other straw men you’d like to throw up here? It’s only been a day since Halloween (and oh, how I miss the scarecrows).

      “Oh – and did you see that Kerry has managed to provide a half-hearted apology to all of us in the military? Yes, he didn’t have the courage to do it live on video – so he had it posted on his website. What courage! We are so lucky this individual did not become our Commander-in-Chief. 8 years (sic) of Clinton was bad enough.”

      Yeah, those pesky eight years of peace and prosperity. What courage! Kerry’s “half-hearted apology” was nothing he hadn’t said earlier today, nor yesterday for that matter. What’s hilarious is the way you Republicans continue to gain mileage out of what is probably the non-story of the year.

      But then, if I were in your shoes, the party of criminals and sex perverts, I’d be desperately trying to lash on to whatever straw men came floating down the stream as well.

      And btw, when are we going to hear an apology from Bush for the 2,800 dead Americans?

      Can’t wait to read that answer.

    21. Pamela,
      RE: ‘Here’s the deal, should we call the GOP the Republic Party?”

      It would not bother me in the least.

      Actually I am a conservative Independent although I do confess to have ‘pulled the Republican lever’ once, in 2004.

      Over the years, Republicans have become immune to character assassination and now tend to look upon Democrat tirades as a source of amusement.

      What IS objectionable are the lies and slander that has become the mainstay of the Democratic Party leadership.

      I almost pity the way your Party leaders manipulate their loyal supporters.

      Can we agree that ALL politicians lie?

      If you concur, then the degree of misrepresentation from both sides is then open for debate.

      It is my opinion that leaders can and do influence their supporters, and that attitudes and rhetoric filters from the top down.

      If Republican leaders advocated the mutilation and murder of their opponents, then the ‘Republic Party’ faithful would abandon them and become Independents, because they would literally have nowhere else to go.

      The Democrat faithful are only repeating what they are being told, by leaders, the MSM and Hollywood elites.

      When a ‘Republic Party’ leader disgraces himself, he disgraces the ‘Republic Party’ and will resign or be immediately booted out by the leadership.

      History shows this to be true. There are always exceptions, but when was the last time a Democrat leader resigned from office when confronted with evidence of their transgression?

      Democratic leaders often have to be dragged out, kicking and screaming, sometimes even after they have been convicted in a court of law and then voted out of office by their peers.

      Rarely do Democrat leaders throw one of their own leaders overboard like they appear to have done with Kerry, but facts are facts, and truth always trumps emotional conjecture.

      Lesser luminaries, like Sheehan and Michael Moore are used up and discarded when their usefulness diminishes.

      I regret the tone of my submission and apologize in advance for feathers that are sure to be ruffled by same. Tirades are sure to be directed at me, but truth is truth and facts are facts.

      So be it.

      As always, time will tell.

      One more day…

    22. Ole Dawg

      As I told someone else here last night… Take 2 aspirins, go to bed, call the Dr tomorrow – you are delusional.